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May 3, 2025
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here we go welcome everybody to the live stream today you guys are having a great weekend we are moving on to building the
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trolino uh enclosure so working on John and Susan's van and we need to make a
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box for the trolino um to house it but then also have a little bit of storage for some toilet paper on the side and
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then then I've already met with them we've sat down on this we found out the distance uh from the back of the fridge
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stack so that when this back part is open you can sit down it's comfortable um making sure there's
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enough clearance so that when you do open the lid the Box doesn't interfere all that stuff so you'll see that uh
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start to come together today we're building the whole entire thing out of 2x4s we'll have a 1/ in panel on the
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right side/ in panel on the front and then the top and then what we're going to do is we're
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not going to hinge it w in alignment with this hinge we're actually going to use again same stainless steel hinges
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we're using for the rest of this build and if you can imagine this will be in the van so driver and passenger
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over here the fridge stack is right here so to access this and use it um
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this hinge will actually be placed back here so it'll be at a distance to where
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you can still store toilet paper and you know cleaning supplies and stuff like that in
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this little Nook but it's enough so that when you open this lid it's going to
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have enough uh you know weight or angle so that it stays up doesn't fall down on
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you and then it clears so that this can open um so I've already pre-cut all the
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wood except for the front and right panels so we're just going to get into uh drilling a bunch of pocket hole
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screws if you guys have any questions along the way then uh you guys can jump
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right into the chat um I already have this built out inside the van so I'm
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just going to start taking this piece by piece over to the table and we'll start
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assembling it and there is a order to all this so
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we just need to make sure we don't get too
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confused on how we how we mock this thing up on the inside all right so we're going to start
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off with our uh our front pieces so these are the pieces that will actually go up here in the
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front um so we've got one
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there and then we got these two uh now what makes this difficult is
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trolino tapered there um so this morning I was measuring
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everything uh preparing for this live stream and the the whole entire thing's tapered you can't really see it until
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you actually hold like a straight edge up uh but it's about a/ inch uh narrower
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at the bottom and then it hits up here at top so got to take that in
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consideration so when I build this this is not going to be all the way flush here it's going to be offset just a
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little bit but the first piece we're going to put just like this and I'm pretty much going to just build
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this freehand just show you guys what it looks like then we'll disassemble it
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drill our pocket hole screws and that'll be that'll pretty much be
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it so you can see this one we're going to have a appear in the
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face and it justes look Overkill that we're using 2x4s uh the reason behind it is if we want space on the inside we
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need something strong enough on the outside so that this is the support for the whole box and then we can keep the
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inside
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open so the next two pieces that we have coming over here we've
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got this side panel so this will be touching the Box um actually no again another half
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inch off yeah this was the fun part about getting this thing
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together it's a weird tapered shape and um the whole goal is that when you're
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using this you want this um you don't want this you want this to
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be recessed so that when you're sitting on this uh you're not going to touch
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this or feel this when you're using it this one is actually going to come up
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here just like that and now what I'm doing here is
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this
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top so this top is this is level with this top so this will be exposed when
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you open the lid what you're going to have is we're going to have this piece of
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popper and this will actually come here and so this is the part that will
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actually open up right there
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um yeah so that'll open up and then you can see that we have plenty of room
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for the top lid to close it's going to be really close but that's just how we
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want to do things keep it nice and cuz we want this top of the seat to be as low profile as possible because this is
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also going to be a jump seat for anybody that wants to hang out in the van and so
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this is already as low as can be it's touching the floor base so this top part
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um we get a square out here we can see that
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that is just we got about less than an eighth but a little bit more than a 16th
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of an inch um so that's GNA be it's going to be
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really nice uh what I might do it's possible that I might shim the back up and then have some type of uh
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felt that this sits on but it's going to be a really really tight fit in a good way um if we can just take a panel over
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here you guys can kind of start to see this come
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together so imagine this piece of popper and this uh piece of birch uh we're not
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going to use Baltic Birch for this we're going to use uh standard half inch plywood
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um so we have the popler here uh the the standard PW is much lighter than the
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Birch the Birch is really heavy and so if you're going to be opening this up and down um if you have just a cushion
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or something on top of it it's just there's no reason to put heavier wood up here now this Frame is going to be heavy
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it'll be this solid Birch because we want it to be thin but strong coming around this outside um but we need this opening so
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this is going to be the top so you can imagine this will be the seat and we can go ahead and measure that just to give
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you an idea of what that
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is um so that's 14 and 1 12
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inches and if John and Susan if you guys are watching this this is another little surprise but uh this foam cushion I
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found it tends to be um now there's more back here so we're going to continue to
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build this but I just wanted to show you why we're talking about this a little surprised but I found a cushion that's
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almost perfect to what I'm trying to put together for
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you and so this is just an outdoor
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uh Pham pad seat from Lowe's like outdoor furniture seat and believe it or not it should
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bring us to our pretty close to our height that we were going
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for so you can go online and uh let's see you do
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standard standard chair seat height and a standard chair seat height is typically
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18 to 23 in so we're going to be right
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at 18 and A2 um then this is going to compress down right at 18 maybe even 17 and a 12
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so this should be a fairly comfortable seating
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uh arrangement you can go online and all of the ergonomics and stuff like that they've
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already been done so if you want to find out if you're making a dinette or a bench seat or anything like that all those measurements are online so the way
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the Standard Furniture is built you buy in the store it's all pretty much to a standard height uh just like I looked up
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so if you can build the stuff in your van to that you're going to get a better uh experience it's going to feel more
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like a normal seat that you would sit in which is kind of the whole point here
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um yeah I think this is going to work now you will have to take this off because even if we hinge this up uh it
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defeats the purpose of our storage box back here so this is more just to sit
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and have on there um it's really like a placeholder just so I could kind of
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visualize if they were going to get a seat pad how high is going to work for them um and so this is good because this
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is very comfortable lot of padding so let's continue to build this
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um actually just G to leave that on there and let's go and put the rest of this on
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here so we need our so this piece is going to come right up there like
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that we're just going to leave that there then we come to our back
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piece and it just happened to be that
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uh 3 and 1 12 in was the appropriate offset from the from your back sitting on the
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wall so this is going to come just like that and again we have this Gap because
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of the taper at the top and that's actually going to be laid
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flat and then we're going to Pock a hole screw into
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that so we can kind of take this out for now
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we another piece on this back side and not only will this give us a a
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a nail or to actually bolt into the floor of the
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van and then here is our back
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piece and so that all lines up flush
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with what we're building
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and then we just got two more pieces left this is for the backside actually three
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pieces so we got we got our base back
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here okay so we'll take this
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off and so this uh this is the lid where the hinge will be right here and then
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this will lift up and we want to make sure that the
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distance for the hinge Mount we have is going to be enough for you know to to access some ruls of
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toilet paper right
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here and then on this back section we have our uh we've got our
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supports that go in there just like that and then we'll have one final piece that may seem odd but it has to do
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with uh making the opening and closing of the uh hinge possible so that piece
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goes right like this and so we'll actually have a piece
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uh copi to this which is going to be half inch so half inch piece of
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uh sanded ply is going to go on top of here that's what the hinge is actually going to bite into and then what we'll
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have for this extra section here you can see this will actually be the part that
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has a lid that hinges so this will actually be the the opening and then this will come all the
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way up and lay against the side of the van just like
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that all right so that's what we're building today so we need to go ahead get
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started now this is pretty much just like Legos we just need need to make sure that uh we keep everything nice and
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square so we're using a CRA jig and we get this set to inch and a
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half for our 2x4s we've got our 2 and 1/2 in Craig screws we got our drill we
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got our drill bit now our drill bit we need to uh take this collar and we need to
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resize the collar for inch and a
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half and they've got some numbers down here so you can stop it at an inch and a
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half and this gives you the safe depth so you don't blow through your material
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and come out on the other side too deep and I did check the audio
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so I'm not going to blow your guys' ears out
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um yeah so this piece we are just going to lay down
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here and then what I do is once I lay this
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down I just take a pencil and I go through and I just put a
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little tick on the piece of wood to to indicate that that's where I want my uh
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pocket holes to go so this one we're going to do pocket holes here
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and we're just going to start with that one
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first now when you're doing pocket holes it is not critical that you Center this
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piece of wood perfectly you just want it relative uh to whatever you're drilling
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into this is uh this Craig Tool uh this clamp is okay for softwoods like 2x4s do
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not use it for Birch um the drill will just walk all over the place and it's it's not good you also want to keep this
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grip held down you shouldn't have to do that but just in my experience uh it's
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not the best made tool
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but it is pretty quick to use considering uh how it works
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now this is going to be interesting I might have to catch what I said earlier because
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uh actually haven't ever drilled pocket hole screws this close to
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the uh The Edge before I may actually change that up
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yeah I think I'm just going to bolt this screw this one in and then I'm going to go to the other one here think that's what I'll
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do now this assembly looks awkward because I'm pretty much doing this for filming purposes so I usually wouldn't
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be in this type of uh reaching over the table try to put this together
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and let's grab another drill
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now although it's tedious you're going to want to clamp This Together uh because it can move on you and it just
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it's hard to fix it after it's moved on you
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speaking of that I wanted to make sure I glue that
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joint now I recommend that you glue all the joints so every joint in this van
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has been glued but if you the pocket hole screws will hold
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pretty
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[Music] well and see this just helps you get a
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nice clean
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joint okay we're going to do this one a little bit different uh I haven't done this before so you
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guys get to join me we're going to try and drill some pocket hole
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screws in this thing sideways I think that's the only the
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only amount of room that I have for this
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so remember it's just wood so if we mess it up we'll just have to cut another piece
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when you think your workbench is big enough it's still not big enough
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[Applause]
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[Music] so this a bolt shired off inside so it's
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in there but the head broke off but that's okay we got one screw
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we've got it glued all right so we're going to do the same thing here we're going to cut going to
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drill this one just like the other
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one see if we got anybody in the
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chat ah I see good point good point Pat
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yeah I can see how that is a is a better thing um for my
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situation I think I'm G to have to do that just because I don't have enough room this is too
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short [Music] so no but I think that's a good recommendation
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you know we're just going to try we're just going to try to do double holes on this
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one um all that's going to happen is that the entry Point's just going to overlap so
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yeah so it can be
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done no Pat thanks for that comment thanks for watching
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now I will say if anybody is using 2x4s you got to be really diligent
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on making sure that these things are
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perfectly Square uh as far as when you take them to the table saw and you cut
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them CU there I don't think any 2x4 I've ever
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encountered has been perfect these are really good I I found some pieces these are
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actually surprisingly true
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now I would also not recommend using an impact driver but I don't have two of these type of drills
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so a regular drill is I would recommend
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that because it's hard to get a feel when you've actually bottomed out with this type of
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drill all right this one was really flush over here so I didn't use clamps plus it was
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pinching pretty well but this thing is really good we can do one final
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check with a square just to see that's perfect
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yeah excellent okay this is our front piece
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so we're going to write front and have an arrow for
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up so we we make sure that this is the one that we're going to use for the front of the
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toilet um we're going to work on the back and then we'll work on the middle sections to tie everything
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together this one we need to we need to do front on
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here this is our top piece and this is the
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back um while we're at it let's just go ahead and knock out these middle
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supports again this is just for my sanity is just marking
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so I don't have to think when I'm cutting these all these pieces out
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if I had to do this over if I was if I knew I was going to do this much pocket hole drilling they make like a
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contractor tabletop Craig tool and pretty much you just it's a tabletop
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like a mini looks almost like a tabletop sole or router table it has a
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uh a lever almost like a plunger and you just put the piece of wood in there pull it down flip it pull it
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down it's a very fast but um yeah in
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hindsight I probably will use that
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also that tabletop version has a has a vacuum attachment so you don't
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make a mess of your whole work area
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[Applause]
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okay so now work on
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our back piece here
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that
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and I've left myself about a qu inch of wiggle room on the back side of this toilet in the van not only does the wall
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kind of curve in and there's this kind of dead space but um if you're watching
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this and you're kind of worried that I'm kind of eyeballing this over
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here it's because it's not really I have enough room to push this back this front
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face that's the one that needs to be perfectly flush with the front face
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we'll just Loosely clamp it up and we'll kind of tweak it
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here okay you feel it's exactly the way you want
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it and you can put some screws in
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there
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okay so I want this one to be the top and I'm marking these like this
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because I've already I've already laid this out in the van and it's uh for example I don't
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want this not to show so it's on the backs side and the bottom little things like
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that so here's the part where you can see if I lay this flush this is way out
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of whack it's just 2x4s they're all cut to the perfect length that's all been
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checked up um that's where we're going to be using the
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clamp to bring it into
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square for
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so the flatness of this one is really important because this is
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where that face frame is going to be that front panel is going to be
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installed
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now when you drill these pocket holes there's actually this uh like/ inch portion that it's a pre- drills the hole
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for the screw so when you're putting this screw in if if the angle's wrong you're going
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to go into the side that is not designed for the screw to go in so you kind of want to go in there and fit it in first
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and then find that little hole that's cut out get the screw in there and then start drilling
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okay there's our top back
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okay this is off just a hair but we already knew that so we'll be ready for it when we
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put it together all right so this
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part I'm G to start putting this piece
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together so again this face right here that we're building right now this is the one that we need to make
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sure it's nice and true for that panel to go on correctly
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so this won't be on drawer slides so this will be a fixed good question this will be a
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fixed uh
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unit so the only thing that the only way this will operate is it will
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uh the it'll open up you can use it flip up the toilet close it close it um but
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it won't it won't actually pull out so it's actually it's meant to be used in place
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this is like a this is like a 4X 8ft table it's still not big enough it's
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funny it's the outfeed table to my cabinet so
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I got three other tables in the shop but they're all taken up with part different parts of the van
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that we're working on so one's one's the tracks saw table one's
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the upholstery table this is the outfeed of the cabinet
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saw oh come on
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flip this
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around okay we're off about a 16th on this joint right here so what we need to make sure that we
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do uh our length is fine but we need to not we need to not drill into that
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uh pocket screw yet until we get this other side
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done okay moving on we got our top piece so this is front
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right we're going to get our kettle bell that we use to help us out in these situations keep this thing held
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down get this joint
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Square so now is this one you can see it's a little springy over here
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see how was I going to do that other
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side that's okay so this kind of goes to Pat's Point earlier if we did it over here this
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wouldn't be interfering with uh what we're doing over here it's not
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really interfering yet we will we will see if that's true or not here in just a
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second
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now they uh the Craig makes a shorter bit but I
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found that if you use the shorter bit you have a tendency of going in at the wrong angle so you want to have the
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lowest angle going in so if I can make it in here
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I'll I'll continue to use this uh kind of low I mean longer bit
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forgot to glue the joint back there
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there we go if you give the glue just a minute it'll actually just drip right on
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down the glue is just a b bonus in our case we're
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not we're not relying on this that for this
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structure but obviously we need this base to be flat because it's what's going on the floor of the van which is
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very true and
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flat for
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all right starting to look like a
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box perfect that's awesome we are very good and square on
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this so let's see we got other pieces
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here so I laid it down to do that front face CU I just wanted to be square this
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back one um I'll still do my best but I'm going to
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be putting them in just like this because I know I have clearance back here
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one thing I had I had considered putting this brace closer to keep this from
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moving back and forth but it made it not possible to put the toilet paper in and
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I think that's uh more important because this this will not be it won't be moving
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around this box too much if you fill this area up here with toilet paper and cleaning supplies um it's it's not going to move
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at all
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and just again making a mental note you can see how we got a little bit of a teeter here so what we're going to do is
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we'll secure this front face down first in the van um with our brackets and then we'll
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tie in the back and it'll bring everything in through um for this one we
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will flip it back and down
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man tell you what I keep forgetting to glue this
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[Music]
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a little test for top
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piece Okay so we've got our box
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now for this back side this is going to be our support and it's pretty much
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uh just a very fancy placeholder essentially because what we're going to do is we're going to put a piece
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of half inch right on top of here and then we'll take our hinge
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we got our stainless steel hinge and that's going to go right like
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that all right
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the fun thing about doing live streams is to get everything ready to prep for
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the filming of the live stream but at the same time sometimes you
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forget uh screws so I
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need first I got to see if I have these screws that I want to use
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h
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let's see what we
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got okay I might actually uh end the stream here let's uh let me show you
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this toilet box going in here so essentially if you needed to take this out you would lift the lid up but now if
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you see we can come in here and I did give uh an eighth of an inch
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forward to back because I have some felt tape and
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I'm going to put some felt tape here and that way this thing is not moving but it sits in here really nice and uh flush
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also gives a nice tight fit um so this piece that's laying up
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here again we get our piece of toilet paper toilet paper roll
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standard size so this is perfectly
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sized for that so I mean you can
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stack see how many what do you got six you do six rolls in here that's pretty
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awesome but yeah so this vect that worked out perfect this is the exact depth of our isotherm Cruise 130 we fit
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we've got our trolino that's fit it fit in here perfect um you stack the toilet paper up here
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it's going to be great your lid is going to be able to come up and so when you're done you
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just truly know that's funny it's that it's soft close and then you'll do that and you'll
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take your lid close it and this will hold be a unit
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so um I'm going to go and get the hardware in the shop grab a
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bite to eat and then I'm I'm going to come back here cut out my side two panels
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um and then those will be taken off painted in the meantime this will be mounted into the van and then uh we'll
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just do some touch-up paint install our hinge and then this will be checked off and next we'll move to the uh countertop
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and the rear panel enclosure for the kitchen Galley so uh yeah I see uh wait wait we
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got more some more questions here hold on a
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second oh cool Pat yeah um I think this is a great toilet you know uh I've got
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two customers um one uh that bought the uh first Adventure van that or the spec
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Adventure van that we build built um that we took to shows uh they really like the trolino
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um and the other customer like as well that's after giving them some options as
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far as um like the uh see what's the cup on
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there's like there's wrap on there is uh Lao or Lao dry
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flush and then uh there's the composting toilets but to truly compost you need way much
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more time so I I think if it was me in a van I'd use something like this where
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you have a solids and liquid separator um because typically you're going number
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one uh if you go number two then you know you're probably going to bag it up pretty quickly and get
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disposed of it but having that separate is really nice um I think the composting
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toilets is just a little too much work um
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so screwing the piano hinges into the edge of the plywood uh I'm actually glad you mentioned
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that um so yeah I'm glad you said something about
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that so I've been using the Baltic Birch and that's been a really nice Hardy thing to drill
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into um for the piano hinges I'm pre-drilling them so I'm pre-drilling
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them with uh what size was a drill
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bit it's really small I mean it might
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be um maybe a it's not a it's probably a 32nd inch drill bit just something just
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a very tiny something to get the just a little bit of the wood out so when it expands it doesn't uh fracture the wood
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um but the ones that these these hes I've been using for the whole van I just like the way that they look they're stainless steel
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they're inch and uh 1 and 116th inch by 12 in and they're actually meant to be
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you can cut these to size so you can find out where you want to begin and end
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and actually take a pair of 10 Snips and you can cut um then take a
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hacksaw and cut the rod that goes in them U but they look really nice and so
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this is what I've been using uh to do this so yeah I've had pretty good luck with
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it um just pre- drwn the holes that's the best way to do it I would pre- drw
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the holes that would be my recommendation um all right I got to
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grab some food I'm going to come back we're GNA I'm going to put this piece on this will all be off camera you guys
1:12:14
will see the final result um if I can get the other things that I need to knocked out
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today but yeah we're getting really close um kitchen Gall is in this drilling will be in today uh besides the
1:12:27
countertop and the back uh that's that's it for the structure of the middle of
1:12:32
the van um still need to do the three panel that's around the water tank
1:12:39
electrical box but uh yeah we are Trucking along um yeah stay tuned make
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sure you guys are subscribed make sure you guys turn on the notification Bell because I go live at random times don't want you miss out on the live stream
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also opportunity to uh ask questions um also check out van Builder hq.com uh
1:12:59
I have a free DIY van build cheat sheet uh it's an it's essentially an Excel sheet of the last three years of all of
1:13:06
my Amazon purchases for the shop and you can go through there and just see what I've bought from Amazon that's come to
1:13:12
the shop it's over 250 items right now it's always growing uh it's completely free for you guys to download and you
1:13:19
just kind of see stuff that I've bought there's solar panels wire fuses uh water
1:13:24
pumps um PEX a tools crimpers uh Riv nut
1:13:30
uh drill adapters stuff like that it's on Van Builder hq.com and so although van Builder HQ is the uh
1:13:40
educational YouTube channel uh my professional van building business is Odyssey custom vans so that link is also
1:13:46
in the description below so if you're looking to get your own custom van conversion built by me go to Odyssey
1:13:53
custom.com there's a link to schedule a phone consultation uh just pick a date and time that's convenient for you it'll
1:13:59
pop up on my calendar and we'll talk about your custom van build um that's going to be it for
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today unless I uh have time tonight to uh put together another live stream but
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um yeah that is it for today guys uh thanks again so much for watching uh
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don't forget to subscribe and I'll see you guys in the next live stream
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