Lonseal Marine Flooring Install | Design Tips On Choosing Color/ Texture

foreign hey guys welcome back to the shop in today's live stream we're going to go over lawn sill flooring so if

you're looking for a high-end flooring it's very scuff resistant and used in a

lot of commercial applications then that's what we're going to go over today and we're going to also talk about

different types so I got some sample books over here that we're going to look at through with a GoPro and then at the

end we're going to do some commentary on the recent install that I did on Thomas's van from here on out we're

going to refer to as Marine one so uh yeah let's get started let's go over here to the computer

and uh check out the webpage so first thing you do is I go online look

up lawn seal and you can just right off the bat see kind of what they're about

well you're probably most familiar with lawn cell flooring is is going to be from the aircraft industry so if you're

on a plane or in the airport that coin flooring that you see on the ground

that is lawn sale product most often they've got all kinds of different applications

you know exhibit Halls stuff like that hospitals also like in specialty

Vehicles such as ambulances um and also known in the Marine industry

so a lot of boats uh the Yachts that you see that it kind of looks like a teak floor but it's actually sometimes it's

going to be lawn Sill and this is actually what we're going to talk about today so

what people been doing is they've been taking this and putting it into Vans it's a perfect product for a van

um you know it's very scuff resistant it's very resilient it's easy to clean and it it wears very well

and let's move into some different types let's see here what

I was going to show you guys yeah essentially you can Google it look at a bunch of pictures

um but the next thing is to get into uh different types so we've already talked

about briefly that you know it's really tough resilient so let's talk about all

the kind of design stuff that you can use all kind of different um products that they make that's

essentially the same thing just different textures different colors so we're on this product page of lawn

seal in a minute I'm going to show you where I purchased mine from not affiliated with this at all just

it's a place that I go because it's really easy to order from and so that's perfectfit.com so this is where I get

everything so you can actually see prices you can kind of price out what you want as far as uh the floor you end

up choosing but right here let's see yep there we go

so there's all kinds of different kinds and in just a second I'm going to show you some sample books that I have so I

did a specialty order of some sample books right behind me that way if I have

customers that come in the shop they can actually see you know touch feel the textures look at the colors it's much

better than kind of just looking online because this flooring is pretty expensive so you know you really do want

to make sure you're getting something that you're going to want for a long time uh so here's a bunch of stuff

um I wanted to get to the Lawnwood marine and I wanted to get onto this one specifically because this is what we

used in Thomas's van now design wise um this is the kind of look that we were

going for uh it was more of a kind of like 80 20 industrial with more kind of like

the marine application and uh I didn't pull up a picture of it let me do that

in another live stream about his ceiling um the ceiling of his van could be a whole

video of itself it's a really cool slatted style ceiling with the embedded LED lights

so yeah we'll definitely do that in a future stream but let's just choose this one for right

now so I can talk to you about it uh which one we chose and then show you the

uh stuff in the book application stuff like that so we chose Lawnwood lawn Marine Wood

and we went with the teak and ebony

um and this the wood grain finish on these uh is incredible uh

it actually has some depth to it so these pictures on their website I

mean they really don't do it justice um hopefully the GoPro can kind of pick up the wood grain of this stuff

um it's pretty cool now this might not be your style but

um again there's stuff to everybody has a different idea of what they want

but this one in particular

we really liked because we are essentially going to match his ceiling to the floor kind of like a mirrored

effect and it actually worked out really well

and then if you go to perfectfit.com you can go to their

marine or their lawn sill flooring and then this way you can actually go through

find what you want for example like the lawn Marine Wood you can click on it

see this will pull up and then you can start pricing out the

size that you need for a van so this next part pay attention to it

because this is going to decide what orientation you're going to put the floor because you're pretty much going to have to only do it in one orientation

so for example with this uh piece that we're doing for his van notice the the

long lines so these long lines coincide with the roll width

so for example when you get your role of vinyl

actually I'm going to jump to something real quick so this will make sense

if I go here

and fast forward to the end it's okay we're doing it live we can

jump around uh let's see

there we go so if you notice this piece of lawn Sill

is the lines go long ways which which makes sense

so what you want to do is if you have like the wood effect or

something like that just know that the lines are going up and down they're not going to go left to right on most of

these products and then what I wanted you guys to pay attention to when you get to order it is

notice that they sell them in six foot wide rolls um you can get it up to 60 feet

obviously you don't need that for a van but the six feet is important because

you're going to have to start making considerations on the

uh the placement so if you have a ProMaster versus a Transit versus a sprinter

the amount of extra that you're going to have on the sides so if you intend to cover a gap

or you intend to kind of roll it up as like a kind of like shoe molding or something like that or like a toe kick

type of thing um just be aware of that uh I'm pretty precise when I do installs

like this so it bothers me if this center line is not perfectly Center so

for example I added up all these ribs divided by two kind of my halfway and found my middle point so this green

piece of tape is my center line of the van so this is the exact center line of the whole band

so you may put it in and just roll it up against the left side and cut all your excess off on the right side

um but I wanted to have this line perfect because uh I just wanted to do that I was thinking

maybe in the future or once the bill got going on I could use it as my reference knowing that this is a true Center Line

right here um anyway so let me go back to

just go back to here okay so just know that six foot wide

doesn't come wider that's pretty much going to do it for any van application you have

um and then the roll length [Music] so if you want to use this

if you have if you're working with your van and you have the van floor itself and you're just doing the floor you know

just get about uh two feet extra so when I got the

material for Thomas's van this is exactly how much we had left off lengthwise so it's about

you know maybe two feet and so this was pretty much the only scrap from his van

um but if you're wanting to if you say you went with like the black coin grip

um what are the gray or something like that or they have like a speckled pattern I'll show you that in just a second if you're going with that

um you're probably wanting to also maybe wrap the bottom cabinets like where if you have like mountain bikes or something that's going to scuff it up

you know storage stuff that you put in the back for the trip um if you're wanting to actually coat

the cabinets with the floor that's a good idea to order extra and then you can just uh you know measure

out the square footage accordingly with that

so we're going to go from here and we're going to move into the different sample types

so bear with me right now we're going to turn on this GoPro

here I'll put on my face so uh this is that system I was telling you guys about maybe in the other video

and it is a wireless system to where we can actually

I can share my point of view through the van so as I'm building the Vans out

you guys can see right here this is going to be able to show you what's going on it's really

cool so it's a if you guys want to nerd out for a second this is a ultra low latency 1080p transmitter

and that's the fancy way of saying whatever you see on the GoPro essentially shows up in real time so

there's not a lag so if I go to point to something you know my voice isn't like 10 seconds

afterwards um anyway so let's go over here we're going to talk about the different sample

types so over here on this section I've got let me move this up out

of the way so we're going to come back to this

piece of insulated board with the

this is the Zip system and this right here we're going to come back to that in just a second

all right so here are the two binders that you can order

and let's see if I can get this out of the way

I can show you guys the title of these so the first one we have is the embossed

um binder and then we have these smooth and wood grain binder if you really want to you can contact

perfect fit and and order these I'm not sure the cost is it's been a while since

I order these two books but this is just so if I have customers come in the shop they can actually touch you know feel

the different uh types of textures because um Lonesome foreign it is uh it's not

cheap but you can um get one of these binders you can really

go through their the inventory that they have so this this first stuff that I'm

showing you this is the typical coin grip flooring so this is the stuff that you might see like on airplanes

um what's actually kind of popular is this speckled color I'm not sure if that's coming through

but it kind of has like these little white flakes in it and then we have we got these

some glossy stuff I don't I don't like the glossy stuff um

we actually have a diamond plate

so I mean you can use this for all kinds of stuff it doesn't have to be for Van products

and again this is the texture stuff pretty much you're not going to be using this for a van but uh oh this actually

this you will so this is a lawn point moonwalk

and I've seen this in a bunch of Van Builds on YouTube so this has a different texture pattern

it's like the coin it gives you the grip like the coin but actually I think a little bit better and it looks really

cool and they've got some really nice colors like some really good earthy colors I

think this moccasin is really nice I've actually seen that in uh in a van

um but probably this out of this whole book is what you might put in the van other than the black coin floor like I

just said let's go over here this is the smooth and wood green so these are your higher

end finishes so if you wanted to do um if you're looking for a higher end flooring system for your van

this is what you're going to want to do you're going to have all kinds of different wood grains and patterns

and I'm I know it's not going to show up on this GoPro but there's actual texture built into this uh

floor it's it's pretty amazing then you're going to have some stuff that's almost like a linen type of

embossing on top of it that one is called let's see here

so we got lawn strand and anytime you see Topsail

see what's coming in yeah Topsail anytime you see that that is like an extra protective coating that they put

on it to be a little bit more abrasive resistant I mean it already is pretty awesome but uh that's even better

and you guys can look at these website I'm just I'm just showing you because I want to show you the uh the thicker

there's like a thicker foam one that actually has some cushioning to it

look at this they got some really wild uh flooring and I think if you guys follow 70 Savage

he's a YouTuber that's doing it as a zombie apocalypse build these uh one of these is what he

used on his uh his build I'm pretty sure it's one of these

okay what that sounds that means that my GoPro ran out of battery

so uh that happens I didn't get a chance to show you guys this uh the one that has the uh the

thicker foam but this one is actually twice as thick so it's kind of uh like

spongy so if you if you wanted something that was had some give to it uh this is

the uh what is the name of this called Lawnwood performa that's what these are

and so they're they're almost maybe 3 16 not really a quarter of an

inch um and then this stuff right here is this more you know plain

shiny which you're probably not going to want a band you want some texture and uh just just remember as you're

building your van you probably want something with texture because you want some grip you want a color that's going

to you know mask some dirt and stuff like that because if you're going out in the the Wilderness you know you're

bringing sand and dirt and stuff like that like a white lawn cell flooring is not probably going to be what you want

to go with something that hides the dirt something that's grippy so that is what I would

recommend to you guys um

see I wanted to show you this thing over here

I'm going to leave you guys on this Longwood floor page really quick and replace that battery

because I definitely want to show you guys the uh

that Zip system sheathing

as well as kind of the lawn seal just like a real life example

see if I can get this GoPro back up

yeah this is going to be really cool so when we get to going over here and

doing the van builds you guys can already see how awesome this is going to be just kind of

first person uh point of view of you know working on the van all right so let's go over here and

check out this um so there's a the company that makes this

uh for some reason is not on the top of my head but anyway they Auto they automatically cut this

system out so that you can do um it's the flooring system that we used

AVC rig that's where we got this from AVC rig and they have it for Transit uh

spreader and I think ProMaster and essentially what they've done is they've taken a zip system sheathing

uh and this is actually made in four by eight sheets of plywood and so what

they've the value that they've added to this 4x8 Zip system is they've uh

created a CNC path to cut this out specifically for a van

size that way you don't have to do it they even for example gave you the little hole to lower

the spare tire but with this system

I'm just going to briefly show you how I applied this and then we'll go into that commentary video

but imagine this is your floor so you get your insulated floor and then you've got your your material

the next thing that you're going to want to get in you guys are going to wonder why this box is

leaking for some reason this must have been broke damaged when I

purchased it and I just pulled it out of the corner because I'm not ready to use it yet I'm gonna have to order another one obviously

but yeah it must have gotten dropped in the shop um anyway so you guys get to see that but

this is uh this is the epoxy system for the floor so this is

how you adhere the lawn sill floor to whatever

uh you're applying it to could be wood could be

um in this case of the Zip system this is a waterproof coating that they put on the

top of it that's what the green stuff is so it's two parts and what you're going

to do is once you have the floor cleaned prepped cleaning is really all you have to do the second thing is get your

um you're going to want to take this right here you want to lay it out in your van

and make sure you don't need any major cuts which you're not going to need it because it's already six foot

wide there's really nothing you can do about the width so the length can just trail out the back of the van no problem

so this is the the most difficult part the reason that this is so hard the

epoxy even if you're experienced is has to do with the open time and the working time

so I'm not sure if you guys can see that if you can't see that I'll explain what

this is so we got in the instructions you have open time and work in time that is the time that you have to work

with this the open time is the time you have to mix it and then the working time is the time you have to apply it

and the reason you need to have all your ducks in a row Everything clean and prepped and ready to go is once you take the part B and put it into

part a you have 15 minutes to work with it and get it mixed

once that's up you only have 15 minutes to get it trowed out and put on your van

and you need a specific trowel so this Trail right here see how to find

the teeth are on it this is a specific depth for this to

work correctly you don't want to have it too thick because it's going to get all

uh the the epoxy is going to start to cure and if you don't have everything evenly

put down you're going to have lumps because as the epoxy starts to harden it

it it's harder and harder to move so you really need to work quickly using this

so let's take what we've learned so far about what lawn sale is

how we're going to apply it with this epoxy stuff what we're applying it to and the the

bottom piece and let's go over here let me turn this off

and we're going to go through and go through the video of me actually installing it

um see you turn this thing off

all right come on GoPro

all right let's get over here into videos

and to open with there we go

all right so the first thing we're going to do is we are going to start disassembling the van

so that's pretty straightforward you know we're going to take the foot plate

out we're going to do all that stuff so what's nice about this system from

ABC rig is they gonna they actually give you a threshold piece to use so that you can

you know clean it up and make it look professional it's going to come with like a a still lip

that lip's going to be powder coated all that good stuff

and so you can actually see that uh piece right there in the bottom

so that piece comes out and then that nice piece comes back in

so right there on the floor if you guys can see that that's the formed metal piece that is uh powder coated

and then in the next clip we're going to just move on we've got all that cleaned out over here on the right side and

we're going to start working on where the parking brake is

this parking brake is like the housing has to be moved so you'll start to see that there's things

that need to be moved in the van to begin this install

and this is the uh the ABC rig flooring piece is cut out it's made into three

sections so it's really easy to put in however

there's a little caveat that I want to tell you guys about as far as putting it

in the van there's a set of instructions with a certain adhesive that is recommended to use but depending on how

you're installing it whether you're three people or you're just one person that's really going to dictate how

you're going to be able to install it for me I'm a one man doing this in this van

and one thing you're gonna have to make sure of is over here on the top

so I'm marking up this top here the seams you want to have the seams as close together as possible so that

warrants you being able to move these pieces ABC rig recommends that you use a

product it's called a 3M 90. so uh let me let me just get a can of

that

so there's there's two products they make a uh like a uh they have a

a liquid spray version that's like an upholstery spray that comes in like a one gallon can so I purchased that for

my next install but this is what is recommended if you're kind of a DIY and don't have that

the the problem that I had was um you'll see here in a second uh

Thomas has a wheelchair lift and that lift has a special bracket that we do

not want to move because everything is everything is orientated very true and

moving that bracket just opens a can of worms about all kinds of stuff so you

want that bracket you need to have is like almost like a date and point like a point that it's it's referenced off of

so if you can imagine um [Music]

that bracket is over here in the corner we'll see in just a second um that's actually something really good

to bring up is you need to make sure that anything that you can foresee being a

hindrance to installing you've got to get that finished up

uh you got to get that worked out before you put this in so let's just keep

playing this so what I'm doing is I'm just trying to figure out everywhere that this is going to impact

uh the van and something's going to make sure that make it out of whack or

something like that so for example if you look in the bottom right hand corner that bracket is just barely touching it

but like I say in a couple of my videos everything in a van affects everything so wherever this sheet is placed the

next sheet is referenced off of that and then the next she's referenced off of that so you can't simply just move it

forward and say okay this will be fine I'm gonna go from there you really got to think about the end

result and that's pretty much anything you do in a van build is

however the end is going to be it's it's very hard to backtrack and fix something after you've done so much in

event so this next section what I'm doing is uh I'm taking a square and I'm going

through and I'm mapping out where the bracket is to the uh and translate it to

the top piece because I need that top piece to just I need everything to settle down nice and

easy because remember we're going to put down adhesive now this is not lawn seal this

is everything happening before we do the lawn Sill so this is floor prep

so we're talking about lawn sale but in the meter in the middle we got to talk about what it's going to go down on

and that's this floor so right here what I'm doing is uh I'm just cutting out that uh piece of

where the bracket is oh and another another thing that was kind of a trick of Our Sleeve was

we also had to there was this power supply for the wheelchair lift and at

the time we didn't have a time to uh because we only had it in the shop for two days so we couldn't reroute this we

couldn't take it apart and redo it the way we wanted to I had to leave it but then

I had to drill a hole out right here so that once the floor went down we could

still get the cord back up so lots and lots of stuff so take your time when you do this

um and kind of just step by step get

everything you know organize as much as you can because things are going to come up

so we got the first part done now I'm just cutting this section out of the other side because this is probably like

a quarter inch Gap and so finally we've got it to where it's going to sit nice and flush

and you'll see me move this just about a million times but it's got to be very precise so we only

have one location where the cord can come up through one location where that bracket is

so now I'm just pretty much just continue to do do all that let's see where I got

okay so I'll go ahead and pause it there so this is what we were trying to achieve now just keep in mind the whole

time we're doing this look at this board so

one thing you do when you're we're building um if you're building your van outside in

like your driveway for example the the weather's gonna mess with you a little bit because

you're going to have the expansion and contraction of wood you're going to have different humidities if you're working outside versus inside a shop

in a perfect world inside a shop like this with air conditioning is perfect it's really not for your

comfort it's more for the materials that you're using because

expanding Contracting contraction can start to warp boards so if we go back

into the video if you guys can see

um the boards that Thomas has you can see how they got like a little bit of a curve on this back side and this piece

right here is this one's the straighter piece and then this one's more curved

and it's just the nature of you know buying something that's even though it's engineered wood

you know engineered wood isn't perfect um so

this is going to affect our our seam so we want to make sure that we keep an eye

on that when we go to actually glue it down

okay so now we're moving on to the back we got the first section done we got the second section done

and then what I'm doing right here is uh he has the ramp in the back

um I can't wait for this series to come out of this van it's so cool so back here in the back is where uh

Thomas loads his paragolfer so look up a paragrapher it is an awesome

piece of machine uses it to go off Shooting Sports all that stuff and it's the whole reason

behind this this van build everything was designed around it so that's the ramp that loads

the paragraph or into the van what I'm doing now is I'm measuring because I can only cut one time

it's got to be perfect and that is the last section so that Gap now visually you are seeing you're going

to see this Gap at the back so it needs to be as clean as possible there's no redo here

uh this this flooring system is very expensive so measure 30 times cut Once on This Job

so now that I got the angle that I wanted I mean the the location where I want my cut to be

you guys can actually see this bottom piece is uh that's the piece right over here so

that's a scrap piece from it so we got we're cutting this out

and then what I'm doing right now is I'm just prepping

everything and just really really double checking again I'm gonna pause the video you can

kind of see how there's a little bit of difference here in here so you can see see how there's

you can see the white of the board then over here there's no white of the board that's obviously because I'm

putting my weight on it but that'll be important in just a minute

so this all has to do with lawn sill I promise because it's the floor

the reason I'm harping on this levelness and evenness is because once you put the lawn sill flooring in

those gaps thankfully lonzoil is pretty thick so

those gaps in the floor even though if they put it up perfectly or they're off just a little bit

it that material will kind of ease over that transition you're going to have

some transition lines and bumps depending on your van depending on

uh humidity how you glued it in all the above so I'm going to show you some tricks

that I did to mitigate that transition to make it as least noticeable as possible

let me go back to it okay

so we got our piece in here and I'm cutting the rubber just to make sure

this thing is laid down as flat as possible

so once I do that everything's looking good next

uh evenness making sure that um

okay here is a perfect example you guys can see how these boards are

kind of are warped so this first one now we're going to fix all this but I just I wanted to bring this to your

attention because if you are if you're new at doing this di whatever

it's okay that this stuff may not stick out you may be really excited that you got the whole flooring system in you

know it came in uh it was undamaged and you're just ready to put it in but

so things like this you might Overlook so that's why I like doing videos like this so I can I can really point out these details really harp on them so

that you guys you can see something that you might not have seen when you were where you were installing it because it does ultimately

affect the very end product of your van the flooring system is really important

to have a really just like laser focus on because everything is going to go on top of the

floor so if it was kind of off and then you go to add the whole entire system uh whether it's your your bed or cabinets

or whatever and then a little section of the floor is off you know it might be kind of like an eyesore so this is something that you

can help you guys out these little tiny things you know

they make a difference I'm saying this because I know how the the end result came out

so you can see how this board's a little warped um so it's kind of curving down

so that's actually not that much uh well the board yeah was warped a little bit

but also underneath here Ford actually doesn't have that much support so where this IP is

this line there's not these ribs there's only like one two ribs

corrugations in the van to support that so I think that was also playing into it

this one is nice flat and straight okay and then we got this one back here

so you can kind of see me I'm what I'm doing here is I'm trying I'm wondering I'm confused

okay so this will be how you are if you did this for the first time I'm confused at why it's not laying flat

because um there so there's actually these little bumps and stuff that Ford has underneath

the van and I what I was doing is I kept thinking that something was under here that I wasn't seeing and it was keeping

it from not going level as I wanted to wanted it to be

but I checked and checked and checked and I didn't find anything it just had it was actually that the the boards had a little bit of a

warp to them so took me a while to figure that out because

um first time I've installed this type of floor and so I kept looking looking I was like

man what is what is keeping this kind of cockeyed here you know I put the bar

anyway the point is I went through this whole thing trying to figure it out

so the next thing is I figured it out and I said you know what we're just going to put um

extra silicone on these uh corrugations and then we're going to kind of uh

move it in a way that would make it um

see if I can explain this to you so you have the corrugations in the van so imagine you got these ribs okay

and so I'm using silicone to adhere this floor and this is silicone is so that when I

put the board down I still have a couple of minutes to where I can move it I kind of move it in and out to get that seam

really tight um it's not the 3M 90 or that adhesive

that ABC rig has for their assembly it's the same way that I adhered my floor on

the van behind me and so it works great silicone is an excellent adhesive but I wanted to use

the silicone because since that board was warped a little bit with the silicone I could actually move it into

place and get it where I want it and then as soon as it was locked in there as soon as it cured it was it was it was

perfect so that ended up working excellent um

so what I'm doing now is I'm just scuffing up the floor to get some good adhesion

not going down to metal or anything like that just a little light Barillo pad and then what I'm doing now is just using some

isopropyl alcohol maybe using denatured alcohol not sure what I was using uh oh

yeah so you see right here see how there's no corrugation I don't know if that shows up in the video can I zoom in

no I can't zoom in so right here you guys can see

there's no if you can see there's no corrugation and then this right here there's there's a corrugation missing

so this side doesn't really have the support like it does over here

so here is the silicone install so I went through

and uh so these sections right here are what are going to

touch the bottom of the corrugation and the white pieces are the top of the

corrugation so I wanted to make sure so just make sure that you hit all of those

and uh one thing that I found out was this well

at least on the one that we had this white section hovers on top of the

corrugations it doesn't actually physically touch these bottom parts do

so that might be an area of improvement for this this product um

but anyway so I laid it down

and then I went ahead and put um I used to do DJ entertainment so I got

all my flight cases my turntables and snow chains and water bottles and sand

picks anything of weight and then what that was doing is two things one

is you know obviously holding in place but it's it's I needed a ton of weight so that

uh that Ben I was trying to get that bend out a little bit

so I come in with the next piece do the same thing clean uh alcohol silicone

and then I've got this in now we were hoping there's a string right here we were hoping that this

string we would be able to use to do some it's a channel that they put in the van

so if I zoom back notice how there's like this channel right here where there's no uh it's like

where the section of the band was by Ford was joined that's a cable that's a cable tunnel you

see that where that string is so you can run cables electrical cables there

um now that string

is so in the future we could pull a cable through well our layout did not allow that in the future so but if

you're wondering what that string is for that's what that was for so again more of my DJ equipment speaker

speakers more speakers all right I'll get that all in

even the subwoofers and then now I'm on my last section so I blew it all out cleaned it

um here you guys can see I don't know you can zoom in this video maybe later but see how the middle

things don't touch it's just the bottom so that's why I only silicone this bottom section

I'm not sure why they did that maybe it's designed on purpose

so if you're wondering why I didn't do the silicone there is because essentially it would would not touch

this bottom part is the only part touching

okay moving down

all right more silicone and then this one was pretty much my

files and brake rotors foreign boxes

um yep that's pretty much all I had so we allowed that to sit on there uh

overnight so it would it recommends 24 hours so 24

hours here so here's a little hack that you guys can uh steal from me so you see

this uh piece of uh it's not a two by four it's thinner than that what is that uh

1 by 3 or something like that um so I I did that here and on the back

side and that way when I put the weight on it the seam is going to be equidist equal I mean it's going to be level on

both sides so that way when it dries it should be perfectly level

um so I took everything so you can see that look at that perfectly that joint is seamless it's

seamless it worked out very very well

um oh yeah so I didn't tell you about the ABC Rig recommended adhesion so that

super 90 the downside remember I told you the the silicone I was able to move it after I placed it

with this contact adhesive you need at least two or three friends because you need to lay it down perfect

the first time because this is an instant adhesion once you spray this on

this on the product the board you spray on the floor and you let it

off gas for just a second um once you put the floor down if you

messed up it's there it's there for life if you had to move it you would rip off

all the foam and destroy it and you'd have to order a whole new kit so that is why I was I was kind of against this

method because I wanted to make sure that once I put the flooring down I was able to

move it just I mean just a little bit but if you use contact adhesive it's

when you lay it down it's permanently there you you are not pulling it back up so if you got a cockeyed or you moved it

too much forward or too much backwards that's where that's where it's going to be so

um the silicone is not nothing that was recommended but I've used it in the past

I've used it on my personal van it's worked great it's not not come loose or anything like that

um yeah so I just wanted to give you that point since I kept telling

you guys that the silicone was so great all right we're moving in we are cleaning everything out of the van

and I promise you guys we're getting back to the lawn sill the point of this live stream

there it is see it's we got it in the video so when I skipped over

um I guess I didn't have the footage of me doing this and it was uh it's footage of me cutting out the Contours

so you want to get some basic Contours cut out because it's not going to allow you to

easily install this so if you imagine if I did not cut out the wheel well on this flap

over here on the side it it was going to uh

why is that audio plane hold on

um if I didn't do that it would compromise this middle part it wouldn't lay down flat uh

so cut it out pre-cut this out as much as you possibly can so everything you can

do because you can move it around you know you're it's not down yet so moving around play around with it all

that good stuff get it where you want it to be um

and it because you only get remember you only get 15 minutes to work

with it if you can mix it a little bit faster maybe you get 20 minutes

so when I installed this um it was pretty stressful because the epoxy cure I mean it's it's curing once

you put that part B into part A and start mixing it that The Cure time the clock is ticking

so what I did is I set clock for 30 minute alarm

and then I had another I have my phone set up on a 15 minute alarm I'm sorry out on a uh a seven minute alarm

so essentially what I did was I started one alarm at 30 that means

you know danger and then the other phone was going to go off to let me know that I needed to move from

the left side to the right side so I split it in half so I took 15 minutes

I did seven minutes on one side seven on the other you know obviously that's not 15 but seven minutes on one side the

alarm went off and I was like oh man if I'm here I need to start making my way over here to the right side or I'm gonna

run out of time and you will run out of time when you're doing this I mean it feels like watery

when you're putting it down at the beginning but as soon as it starts to cure it starts to get more gluey and

more gluey and it can be stressful so hopefully watching this video is going

to kind of help you guys prepare for that now let's fast forward here a little bit

so I've got this out okay why do I not have a video of the floor

being laid out oh well

um so essentially what I did was I oh yeah yeah that's a very important

thing so you see how I have it folded in half right now I actually scrilled screwed in

in two places where it would not be seen so this backs me covered but down here at the bottom right here at the bottom I

have a screw drilled in for the center point and then I have a screw drilled in for the center point right here

and by drilling a screw here and here it locks in the

the Lonzo flooring and that way I'm just worried about the flap on the right and

the left I don't have to worry about it the whole thing twisting on me so it

locked it in place and that way I can just put my adhesive on one side Trail it out fold it over and then go

the other side do the adhesive trowel it out and then fold it over and it doesn't move so

I put a screw in the top and I put a screw in the bottom and it's again it's where it's not going to be seen there's

going to be a little metal lip covering it covering the hole that I drilled through the product or the lawn seal

so I got everything ready to go I've already mixed everything into a bucket

now you can just put it in their bucket but for some reason I put it in a transport

another bucket anyway okay notice I have a respirator make sure you have a respirator make sure you

have gloves on make sure that you have

uh make sure that you have you're wearing clothes I don't I wore this for the video I don't know why but the pants

that I had were destroyed because when I moved to the other side I slipped in my my whole leg got epoxy all over it so

those pants are gone but because remember once you start putting it down you can't stop you can't

go run and get gloves you can't go run and get a respirator if you thought you needed it or change your shoes because I

mean you have seven minutes per side and that's it so once you start you want to have

enough time so that you're not um you know having a heart attack as you're running out of time

even if that means uh doing a mock layout like I'm not

lying put the lawn seal down get your tray on your hand and just act like you're

putting the stuff down and time yourself and then act like you're putting it down and time yourself

so what I did is I did a lot of practice and I was ready to go so now I can actually enjoy the process I can start

from the top I can get my uh

um you know kind of getting a Groove uh and the most important thing that you have

to remember is this Trail the this thickness it's very it's very

thin but you really got to make sure that this you you lay out this

thickness on the floor don't cheat and like have some Globs up because

um eventually you're gonna have to roll the floor out and imagine if you just

didn't take your time and you got a bunch of Globs it's going to start to turn into a big wave of a glob instead

of just like little ones that the roller can actually move out

so so here we are we're going we're making our move

coming down coming down um I think I'm checking my phone right

here oh yeah if you guys are wondering what this is this is this cutout

I relocated the AC unit from the back to the front because we didn't have any room in the

back where the water tank was so this was that's another video that was a pretty amazing thing that I'd

I had in my head how was going to happen but in the real world it was pretty interesting because you actually

have to find a company to refabricate ac lines all right I digress

all right we got our TR everything's trowed out here we go here we go we're going

we're going all right so we got our first side done notice

it's very very even all good and then we're going to take this and

we're going to slowly roll it and we're rolling it like we're putting on a vinyl graphic or you know rolling out some

dough or whatever we're making sure we don't have any bubbles

take I know you don't have time but take your time all right

and then there you go there's one side so um

what did I so I guess okay so there's that oh yeah make sure so right here I

haven't messed my my pants up yet so don't accidentally get your knees in the

bottom of this and then uh get on your pants and then get it on top

of your lawn Sill if you get that epoxy on anything it's ruined you're not going to clean it off

um you maybe try to do some mineral spirits or something like that but whatever you contacted will never be the

same all right moving now we are ready for side two so

notice how how well those two little screws that I put in there they just keep it nice taut

um and just ready to go so here's where I messed up I think my knee Kip see my knee is touching the

epoxy over here I think that's more messed up anyway okay so if you notice in the front see this

first side I didn't do that thing where I poured the bucket out okay and then you see me on this side watch

this I'm going I'm going and I'm like oh crap I just pour the whole bucket out uh now

there's a reason I did that okay so I researched a lot about epoxy

um when I did this the shop floor so I did I epoxy the shop floor

you know did a bunch of research and epoxy has something called a pot life and the pot life is

uh it it's how fast it's curing while it's in its pot you know where you mixed

it if you can quickly take that whole thing and pour it out the temperature goes

down so uh I think uh I could be wrong but I think

it's a endothermic reaction where the uh epoxy is it's it's creating it's

getting hot so if you can slow down its curing Time by uh getting it cool again

you can save yourself a couple minutes so what was happening in this uh part of the video

is it was starting to feel like glue it was hard to trowel and I was like man oh

so I immediately just poured the whole bucket out and what that does is that allows that epoxy

to cool and not hardened so quickly

or at least that's the theory so now I'm working my way man I'm I'm

Trucking it I am Trucking it like right here my alarm was going off so it's already been 15 minutes so this stuff is

from any any work I do forward is past uh the Cure the time that you can

actually work it's working time it's already passed I already ran out of time it is really hard right here to uh to

trail out it's very gluey very thick um and so I'm like man I gotta get this

down because you got to get it down and where it's not all the way cured because guess what boom you gotta get your uh

your little detail work so this whole thing is curing this whole time so this little detail work over

here I mean it's just you want to get that roller on there as soon as as soon as you can

so this little detail work around this wheelchair lift man

I had to do it perfectly and then I had to do it quickly and there's two things that usually don't go together

so it did good I was happy with what I did and I was like come on come on and then boom

finally I got the roller out so if you guys can see

17 minutes and 30 seconds on the clock so this this is real time I mean this is

I'm already two two and a half minutes past the working time

so I really had to get in here and just start rolling this floor down

and you want to roll it make sure you get all every get that epoxy very even

good contact and is that my last video

I guess it is all right I'll try to I'll try to

explain what I did here

okay so final thoughts on this come on

final thoughts are this is a pretty good video I'm on how

to install this and I think the only thing I left out was probably this roller part I didn't

mention at the beginning but you will need a I think it's a 75 or 100 pound roller

to roll this out I think this one was 75 I don't think

they made a 100 pound for my rental company was anyway this is the last process of the

lawn sill insulation installation so you're going to roll this out and

what you're doing is again you're trying to work out any air possible air bubble bubbles uh I did a pretty good job there

was nothing no air bubbles that I could see everything this actually was a Flawless install as stressful as it was

because it's just the timing because you don't want this to cure um

because not only is it the lawn cell you're messing up and having to redo but you can

potentially mess up the floor and then you're gonna have to redo that so

um that's why I really want to take really want to take your time on this

so again final step roll that out from the middle to the sides from the

front to the back and then you want to let it set for a little bit and then come back over

I think about an hour later don't quote me on that

there's there's two rolling periods with the initial rolling period and then there's a follow-up rolling period

uh so once you do that you're done it needs to um obviously not have foot traffic for

24 hours and then I'm just going to read the last part of

the instructions allow no foot traffic period for 24 hours after installation installation and allows 72 hours for the

adhesive to fully cure before setting heavy Furnishings or allowing heavy traffic

so we were only able to allow this to sit for uh 24 hours because Thomas needed to

head on to where he was going um

and the good news was you know the shop was at about you know 72 degrees the whole entire time the humidity was good

so you know it couldn't have been more of a better environment to allow for curing time so it felt good for that

so this took two days and those two days I'd say you could almost call it maybe

two and a half days maybe if you're doing DIY because you can't get around the time that it takes

for the adhesive as like the silicone to cure and you can't get around not being

able to walk on it to let the epoxy cure

now some people that do DIY vans you'll see them if you guys are doing it

outside you know you need it if it's too cold at night like below 70 degrees or whatever you're going to need to put

like a heater somewhere in the van and just kind of keep it warm and you're really going to have to baby this because you get one chance for that

epoxy to cure it doesn't cure properly it's going to be gummy or it's going to

be brittle rock hard so you need to make sure that you've got a really good uh

you try to manage the conditions

because once you're done that's it but the good news about everything is that

this floor is it's incredible Thomas has already been back to the shop we've been

kind of some tweaking some things as he's shaking the van down there's been sand in this van there's

been gravel there's been you know going back and down with the uh you know

the tires and stuff like that and it's doing great um it's really really good product so

this lentil in combination with ABC rig flooring it's a really great option

they're premium materials to be used in the van build so if this is kind of what

you're going for um look wise and kind of you know

on the high end of a van flooring system I think this is perfect for you

all right and uh let me step I'm going to step really quick on the other computer just to see

if I can access the chats

all right so I don't see anything coming through

so let's go ahead and close out this live stream so again let's go to the computer

it's a lawn sill if you guys are looking to uh get this just type it in it's spelled

weird it's spelled word l-o-n-s-e-a-l so type that in you can see all that

good stuff and if you want something an easy way to kind of go through and actually get a price um

again no affiliation but perfectfit.com is a just a easy place to go it's got

um it's got upfront pricing you know you can do how many feet uh there's not that big of a discount

for ordering more than 60. but you can at least see all this stuff

and then conveniently at the very bottom they have the trowel you can buy

just buy this Trail don't worry that it costs 22 dollars just get it

it's very important that that um the depth that you you spread it out

because it also has to do with the curing time and everything uh

this right here is what I bought I'm gonna have to buy it again um

that was a little expensive mistake if I dropped it or it was in shipping I don't know it's been too long to figure out who did it so I will have

to buy another 123 dollar bucket of that

um but you'll just need the product you'll need the floor you'll need the trout and this you don't need the tape

and you don't need this vertical service stuff um I'm not sure about the tape apparently

you can buy this tape and use it in place of the lawn so epoxy I don't know

about that um so yeah that's all you need floor

trowel this um so they make it nice and easy just

boom boom now this is linear foot so when you

order this like I'm just going to make an example uh the minimum you can do

apparently on their side is three so this is three three feet

by six feet that's what the linear foot means so

imagine you have a six foot wide roll and the linear feet is this this

direction so the default is six feet wide and you can start at three feet and then just

just add I think I got 12 or 14 feet I can't remember how much I ordered

um yeah so this is how that's what you need to buy it um

in the future I will have that long format real-time video so you guys can watch it or you can just uh re-watch

this live stream okay so that's that

lawn sale and uh yeah we're gonna close this thing out

guys if you have any question on how to install either the ABC rig flooring or

just any flooring in general put that in the comments below happy to answer that for you same thing with the lawn sill if

you want my recommendation on stuff like maybe some things that I've seen maybe trending a little bit I know the coin

flooring that's kind of like the basic everybody kind of gets that it's like the black coin uh but like a lot of the wood tones

and stuff like that are pretty nice um my recommendation is to go go with some

more like like Earth Tones stuff like that stuff like I said earlier that's going to hide dirt well

um and then actually consider maybe getting something that has a little more grip and texture to it if you're doing stuff that is more like off-road maybe

in the dirt the mud or the snow even um yeah but that's going to do it for

the lawn seal insulation installation video and uh hope to see you guys in the

next live stream next week um come with some questions and we can answer them live maybe do a little bit

of a q a at the end of the video but until next time uh I will see you guys next week